Comments on: An undeniable sense of pride http://lehors.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/an-undeniable-sense-of-pride/ Opinions on open source and standards Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:25:17 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Boycott Novell » ODF Keeps Winning; No Wonder Microsoft Went Corrupt Against It http://lehors.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/an-undeniable-sense-of-pride/#comment-374 Boycott Novell » ODF Keeps Winning; No Wonder Microsoft Went Corrupt Against It Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:58:29 +0000 http://lehors.wordpress.com/?p=82#comment-374 [...] wrote about what seemed like a possible bribery of Indian charities by Microsoft. Arnaud Le Hors rightly wonders what kind of people are willing to work for such a vicious company. He cites that story about India [...] [...] wrote about what seemed like a possible bribery of Indian charities by Microsoft. Arnaud Le Hors rightly wonders what kind of people are willing to work for such a vicious company. He cites that story about India [...]

]]> By: Boycott Novell » IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: October 11th, 2008 - Part 2 http://lehors.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/an-undeniable-sense-of-pride/#comment-373 Boycott Novell » IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: October 11th, 2008 - Part 2 Sun, 12 Oct 2008 08:43:45 +0000 http://lehors.wordpress.com/?p=82#comment-373 [...] cj:  ”With all the things that have been reported around OOXML over the last year I’ve often wondered what it must be like to work for a company that appears to be willing to go beyond what most would find acceptable to win. I’m glad this merely is a rhetorical question for me and surely hope it will stay that way.” http://lehors.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/a… [...] [...] cj:  ”With all the things that have been reported around OOXML over the last year I’ve often wondered what it must be like to work for a company that appears to be willing to go beyond what most would find acceptable to win. I’m glad this merely is a rhetorical question for me and surely hope it will stay that way.” http://lehors.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/a…; [...]

]]> By: Roy Schestowitz http://lehors.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/an-undeniable-sense-of-pride/#comment-372 Roy Schestowitz Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:02:36 +0000 http://lehors.wordpress.com/?p=82#comment-372 You link above misses the part where Microsoft gave lots of money to these 'charities' (NGOs). It was reported by AP days before the vote. You link above misses the part where Microsoft gave lots of money to these ‘charities’ (NGOs). It was reported by AP days before the vote.

]]> By: Arnaud Le Hors http://lehors.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/an-undeniable-sense-of-pride/#comment-368 Arnaud Le Hors Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:43:00 +0000 http://lehors.wordpress.com/?p=82#comment-368 Hello Art! There are many examples of "open software interoperability standards". I suggest you look at <a href="http://www-03.ibm.com/linux/opensource/isplist.shtml" rel="nofollow">our pledge</a> that lists quite a few of those. The principle isn't about requiring a free implementation of the standards but about allowing such an implementation. The whole idea is to encourage open source friendly IP policies. As you know not all Royalty Free (RF) licenses are open source friendly unfortunately. Beyond the RF aspect the terms and conditions can prohibit such a type of implementation. This principle is about guarding against this kind of limitation. Hello Art!

There are many examples of “open software interoperability standards”. I suggest you look at our pledge that lists quite a few of those.

The principle isn’t about requiring a free implementation of the standards but about allowing such an implementation. The whole idea is to encourage open source friendly IP policies.

As you know not all Royalty Free (RF) licenses are open source friendly unfortunately. Beyond the RF aspect the terms and conditions can prohibit such a type of implementation. This principle is about guarding against this kind of limitation.

]]> By: Art Barstow http://lehors.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/an-undeniable-sense-of-pride/#comment-367 Art Barstow Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:04:53 +0000 http://lehors.wordpress.com/?p=82#comment-367 I agree these are a nice set of principles. I think they are a bit "Mom, Home and Apple Pie" but nevertheless, well done. I would be interested in teasing apart Tenet #4 ("Collaborate with standards bodies and developer communities to ensure that open software interoperability standards are freely available and implementable.") a little. For example, what is an example of an "open software interoperability standard"; does this mean IBM, henceforth, for IBM's standards participation; will IBM only participate in a standards activity if that activity will include a "free" implementation of the standard? I agree these are a nice set of principles. I think they are a bit “Mom, Home and Apple Pie” but nevertheless, well done.

I would be interested in teasing apart Tenet #4 (“Collaborate with standards bodies and developer communities to ensure that open software interoperability standards are freely available and implementable.”) a little.

For example, what is an example of an “open software interoperability standard”; does this mean IBM, henceforth, for IBM’s standards participation; will IBM only participate in a standards activity if that activity will include a “free” implementation of the standard?

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